An Uncommon Conversation: Phil Miglioratti and Domenic Priore
* Look! ~ Listen! ~ Vibrate! ~ SMiLE! *
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* Brian WIlson* Curt Boettcher * David Leaf * Byron Preiss * Julies SIegel * Paul WIlliams * Andy Paley * Mark Linett *Mike Love * Al Jardine*
*Crawdaddy * Hit Parader * Luau *
DOMINIC>>> Hello Domenic, this is Phil (I go by my middle name but nice to see our names together!) . . .
PHIL>>>You were a huge factor in fueling my relentless search for SMiLE that began in late 1966 and early 1967. After you released the seminal “Look! Liste!, Vibrate! Smile!” in the late 80’s I reached out to you by (snail) mail and you connected me to a bootleg tape of the songs. (Thank you; saved my life!)
Of course, I have several questions about that now legendarily book...
There was a bit of contact with Brian Wilson, through Andy Paley, for "Look! Listen! Vibrate! SMILE!" during 1987 and 1988. Brian would talk about things at songwriting sessions with Andy, and it wound up on tape. I'd then ask Andy to ask Brian something and I'd hear Brian talking about it to Andy, not me, but I got the relay information that way. But it was all in the game at the time because this was also the first time the "Smile" tapes were to be exhumed since 1972.
Peter Reum, who at that time had the greatest Beach Boys private collection ever known, invited me to come do research with his materials in Colorado. From there, I came back with copies of things Capitol Records was throwing away... like the mock-up of the "Smile" front and back cover (the back cover photo I scanned from Peter, is now also on the officially-released Capitol "Smile," ironically). Peter had other inside stuff like the hand-written list of "Smile" songs to be put on the back of the LP cover. Billy Miller and Miriam Linna from Kicks magazine and Norton Records in New York were also a big help, supplying their local "Go" magazine material and other rare things.
PHIL>>> The story of Brian’s unfinished/unreleased masterpiece unfolded from 1966 until 2004 when Brian and the band performed and then recorded the songs. From your perspective, is the real story of the music and the true history of what happened (and did not happen) correctly understood by most fans and critics or is there still myth or legend causing misperceptions?
DOMENIC>>>
It swings many ways, actually. I personally think that "what would have happened" question isn't very interesting. I don't think there is any doubt that "Good Vibrations" set a tone that "Heroes & Villains" could have followed very easily in the version finished on the first few days of March 1967. Yes, the b-side had not been spliced together, but the parts were there. Imagine if there is no lawsuit brought against Capitol in those very same early March days, and the single comes out as planned in March?
People will be talking about it, that is for sure. He goes in to the studio in April and does "Vegetables" as an independent. That could have been edited and released shortly after "Heroes." So their 45s were ready. The album was almost completely recorded by June 7, 1967 (one section of the Water suite was finished in October '67).
So really, it was a lot closer to being finished than has been advertised. There is no question that a 1967 LP with "Good Vibrations," "Heroes and Villains," "Vegetables," "Surf's Up," "Cabinessence" and "The Elements" on it gets ignored. So all the hoo hah about that is just tiresome.
PHIL>>> If you were assembling a must-read list for fans who want to deep-dive into SMiLE, what books or resources, which authors would you recommend?
PHIL>>> How does SMiLE fit in The Beach Boys catalogue? Aberration? Missed opportunity? Power-struggled to its demise? Their G.O.A.T.?
PHIL>>> The Beach Boys catalogue is deep but also wide. It utilizes many different genres and employs a variety of styles and themes. This has resulted in differing fan bases that isolate car songs, Brian's pet sounds, early 70's "FM," endless summer hits, the Love-Melcher era, and many others. What is your "career-spanning" description/analysis of their music?
DOMENIC>>>
I don't care much about The Beach Boys recordings after "Adult/Child" was left in the can. I'm not a much a fan of "15 Big Ones" but outside of that, all of their albums have great stuff on them up to "Adult/Child." After that, you have to be an apologist, really. Of course, "Pacific Ocean Blue," "Brian Wilson" and "Orange Crate Art" stand out, as does The Honeys' "It's Like Heaven" when you really think about it. "A Post Card from California" (by Al) is good. "Bamboo."
Keith Moon was in a band prior to The Who; this is The Beachcombers, and example of how early Surf music from L.A. had an influence in England (another is the use of "Wipe Out" during the intro to the TV show "Ready, Steady, Go!"). Keith carried this energy with him into The Who. There is something to be said about the primordial sound of the early Beach Boys records, and how they resonated with The Ramones and many other groups in the wake of the first Punk Rock explosion.
PHIL>>> Look into the future. How will future generations view The Beach Boys story? Their music? The Brian vs. Mike versions? Their rivalry with The Beatles.
PHIL>>> Take us on a tour of "The Dumb Angel Gazette" (and why that name?)
Well, in 1987 when I did the first issue, I thought it was hilarious that The Four Seasons tried to do a psychedelic album in the wake of The Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" (called "Imitation Life Gazette") but then again, like, The Beach Boys and The Four Seasons in 1963 were quasi-"rivals" for lack of a better word.
"Dumb Angel" being ... a psychedelic album by The Beach Boys... heck, in 1987 no one would even think such a thing existed, as it would have been with The Four Seasons. In fact, their producer Bob Crewe did the amazing psychedelic soundtrack for "Barbarella" so maybe I'm missing something (or, maybe I'm not).
The "Dumb Angel Gazette" title is about being facetious, or, I really liked the book title "The Theater of the Absurd" by Martin Esslin (and yes, I have read the book). Early Rock 'n' Roll was not devoid of... a brilliant sense of humor.
The whole point, unconsciously, was eventually what would be called Alternative or Indie, and that's what I was already way into by the second half of the '80s. To me, that was the only option, because I wasn't going to be programmed to by "the man." In 1976, I went to see two of the earliest Punk Rock bands in L.A., and by 1977 I was seeing all those groups who were forming and became more well known from the movie "Decline of Western Civilization" (which, it so happens, I wrote the booklet notes for Penelope Spheeris' box set of all three films a few years ago) and Brendan Mullen's book "We Got The Neutron Bomb."
Tom Nolan's story from The Los Angeles Times WEST magazine, late 1966,
(reprinted in LLVS in B&W)
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PHIL>>> One more comment you want to make ...
Thanks, That was VERY enjoyable!
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